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weight loss with successful treatment of sleep disorders - your experiences ?

Question:
I have been ignoring my long-time habit of waking up several times per night. I have enough energy to put in a good days work but generally am not worth much energy wise by the time I get home. This has been a problem for me since I was in my early 20s (I'm 43 now). Prior to my wife and I having children I would simply take a one to two hour nap right after getting home if I had anything planned for the evening. However, with loud and active children (5 and 6 y/o) I can't use the nap technique anymore. I plan on seeing a doctor soon.

For those of you who have had good success in treatment is weight loss the norm? I love the idea of getting rid of some (all?) of my middle age spread simply by sleeping better. The flip side of this question is how much improvement in sleep can be expected with weight loss? I have been on a regular exercise program for the past few months (after laying off regular exercise for years) and have lost a few inches around my middle. While I still wake up as often as before I feel like the quality of my sleep is better (less tossing and turning as shown by less chaos in my bed sheets). Can a significant weight loss fix breathing problems associated with bad sleep? I am fairly certain my problem is breathing related as my wife tells me I stop breathing at night.


Answer:
If you research the weight OSA connection you will find that there is a conneciton but it is a chicken/egg thing going on. I personally believe that osa caused me to gain weight. I had huge weight gains and that caused my osa to worsen.

Since my surgery in December (I had a tracheostomy) I have lost 45 + lbs. I have not dieted I am just getting good sleep.

First of all, Tony, welcome! I think you'll find lots of folks, who try to help here. But onto your question ...

It's common, but not necessarily the norm, and certainly not guaranteed. This can be due to many reasons. For example, if you eat late at night to avoid sleep, then you will have to unlearn that habit.

However, what often occurs is the amount of activity and exercise increases. So, even if weight loss does not start right away, an increase in heathy 'tone' does start as soon as the therapy is effective.

Depends. If you had this problem PRIOR to the weight gain, don't expect it to go away just because you loose weight. That's the case with me. During my teen years my sister complained that I snored loudly and would stop breathing at night. Sounds like I've had this most of my life. But it took too much stress, not enough exercise, attendant weight gain, and probably increased age before it became extremely serious.

Many changes that case (or increase) obstructive sleep apnea occur as a result of aging. No amount of weight gain will change that.

Usually spouses know what's going on... they WORRY when we stop breathing. And they have WAY too many times they get to listen and worry. So, PLEASE do follow through and see a doctor. You will need to see a sleep specialist.

Please understand that I'm not discouraging you from exercise (and wight gain) as a way to control your obstructive sleep apnea (OSA). For some people that's all they really require. You might fit that category. But do NOT try to play doctor and self diagnose. Let a doctor and a sleep study determine what's going on.

LOL! Like anything else, there's a common vocabulary here ... which we often shrink to a set of abbreviations. We just love those TLAs and ETLAs (three letter acronymns and extended TLAs). I'll try with no guarantees of complete accuracy or spelling (or is that speeling ?? ;-):

And remember ... you asked for it! ;^)

OSA - Obstructive Sleep Apnea. This type of sleep apnea occurs when the airway to the lungs is obstructed (such as with the soft palate or tongue). To be cleared, the individual arouses enough to tighten the muscles ... Though not fully awake, such obstructions keep the individual from deeper sleep (and often REM sleep). As a result, the individual suffers sleep deprivation.

Hypopneas - Sometimes the airway does not completely obstruct. However, a severely decreased airflow (only 50% of normal) can also cause an arousal from deeper sleep. This decreased airflow is called a hypopnea.

UARS - Upper Airway Resistence Syndrome - Sleep researchers are beginning to understand that the airway resistence does not necessarily come from an obstruction in the throat. This can occur ABOVE the soft palate. Hence the UA part of the name.

RDI - Respiratory Disturbance Index is the number of apneas (obstuctive + central mixed) AND the number of hypopneas. As a rule of thumb we should not have more than 5 per hour. Note that SOME apneas are normal. This is actually a mechanism our body uses to keep our lungs properly filled and cleaned ... it's why we occassionally take a deep breath during the day.

RDIs above 5 are considered abnormal. I've forgotten the exact range, but basically the scale is used to determine the effectiveness of therapy. And might might not ACCURATELY reflect the effectiveness of sleep. Since it does not include the SAO2 (saturated O2) levels.

PSG stands for Polysomnogram (the sleep study ... means many sleep measurements). And of course when someone takes those many sleep measurements we call it polysomnography. These (should) occur at certified sleep labs, where they monitor movement during the night (via videotape ... usually using a red light), they also have several EEG type electrodes to monitor your brain wave patterns, and measure the muscle tone of the jaw, the REM activity, the breathing through the nose and mouth, two EKG patches, two 'belts' to measure respiratory activity, one or more electrodes to measure leg movements (for PLMD), and a pulse oxymeter to measure the saturated O2 levels (which implies the CO2 levels, since that is MUCH harder to measure). THAT is why it's called a POLY-somnogram.

During a sleep apnea, the body stops breathing. The result is decreased blood oxygen levels. Anything less than 90% is considered abnormal. It often drops downto and below 70% for minutes at a time. This is dangerous, and leads to permanent damage if untreated for too long. Of course the body tries to avoid this, so rouses to lower levels of sleep where the obstruction can be cleared. (If it's due to an obstruction).

The most common therapy for OSA is CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway Pressure). This device is essentially a blower attached to a nasal mask to apply pressure to deliver a precise and continuous pressure to help splint open the airway. The pressure is not very high and is measured in cm H2O pressure.

But sometimes problems with the Continuous pressure causes other systems to be used. For example, if breathing against the pressure causes problems, then a BiPAP (Bi-level PAP) unit can be used. This provides a decreased exhalation pressure. And it costs MUCH more. And sometimes individuals have wildly varying pressure needs. The DPAP (or VPAP) unit provides Demand-based (or Variable) PAP to help splint open the airway.

Whew! That's one sleep disorder ... more to come ...

CSA - Central Sleep Apnea occurs when the breathing reflex fails to fire. Thus the Central Nervous System is the underlying problem. (Often for simplicity, I'll say "the brain forgets to breathe" ... though it's MUCH more complex). This can occur for many reasons. Often someone with years of OSA problems may also see CSA events (even after CPAP), since the body starts to expect an increased CO2 level. So, the breathing reflex is not triggered until that CO2 level is approached. Sometimes this dissappears after CPAP therapy is started. But it can be due to an underlying problem with the central nervous system.

The PSG determines the difference between CSA and OSA events. In this case, NO respiratory effort is made. My wife notes that sometimes I inhale, exhale, and fail to even try to breathe in again. She will often just lay her hand on me, which is enough to kick in the ol' motor, and I start to inhale. This is a central sleep apnea.

Obstructive events are often associated with a mild gulping or snorting sound, when the obstruction is finally cleared. It can be a REALLY loud snore ... I did it so loudly before treatment that I would wake myself and the kids up -- terrified and screaming (the kids were screaming ... I just wanted to! ;-).

Treatment for central sleep apnea usually consists of medication to help improve the breathing reflex. If this fails, a MUCH more expensive BiPAP unit can be used which has a back-up rate ... a minimum number of breathes per minute ... that it monitors. If you fall below that amount, it switches from exhalation to inhalation pressure to attempt to jog the breathing reflex.

That's two sleep disorders ... often intertwined, as you can seel.

Mixed Apnea - This is fairly simple to explain. Essentially this is an apnea event that starts as a central sleep apnea (the breathing reflex fails), the body rouses enough to trigger the breath, but an obstruction also exists. Again the body must rouse enough to clear the obstruction. Makes for a very bad night of attempted sleep.

If this exists, therapy will include both xPAP and medication.

xPAP stands for any type of PAP applied to splint open the airway. Sometimes you will also see nCPAP, which stands for Nasal CPAP.

PLMD - Periodic Limb Movement Disorder occurs when the body sends stray signals that cause the body to 'jerk' during sleep. This arouses the body enough to keep the individual from getting deep sleep. And sometimes it's a learned reflex the body uses to avoid deep sleep. For example, if obstructions occur during deeper sleep. If this is associated with OSA, many doctors will treat that first, and see if the PLMD clears. If not, medication will be used to help control the movements that distrub sleep.

Stages of sleep - The body should pass through several stages of sleep. The lightest level is Stage 1 sleep, the deepest level is Stage 4 sleep. Often Stage 3 and 4 are lumped together as 'deep sleep'. From stage 4, the next level is REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep. This cycle usually lasts about 90 to 120 minutes. That often explains the common frequency that we develop to when we awaken.

Alpha-wave intrusion occurs when deep sleep is distrubed by the presence of alpha-waves (that occur during wakefulness and the first stage of sleep). This is often a sign of another physical problem, such as fibromyalgia.

RLS is Restless Leg Syndrome, which results from a constant restless feeling in the legs. Unfortunately for someone that suffers from this, it continues during sleep (as PLMD) and distrubs sleep causing sleep deprivation. Again, medication is the normal path for therapy.

REM Behavior Disorder occurs during REM sleep. Normally during REM sleep all our voluntary muscle activity is dampened. No matter how much we flail our arms and legs in our dreams, they ...


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