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Disability and Sleep Disorders and what I am doing ?

Question:
I recently had surgery at Stanford for my sleep apnea and it has not helped so I am awaiting my sleep study next month to see what it says and then the next surgery. I am saving the trache for last as my wife nor I want it.

I did see the director of the Stanford clinic and he says the cpap is my problem. He has seen a few cases like mine. Ambien has helped a few which I tried and it did not work. He thinks GHB might work, it is in clinical trials at Stanford and is currently awaiting FDA approval for treatment for sleep disorders.

I started provigil again at a much higher dose with not much success. I am also trying an antidepressant and awaiting results. I am trying to find a combination of drugs that might stop any awaitings at night and try them longer than a month to see if they help.


Answer:
First, let's be sure we are talking apples and apples. As of 10-15 years ago, there was Social Security Disability (SSD) and another federal program that goes by the initials SSI. All I remember about SSI is that the "I" stands for income and you can only get it if you are flat broke, i.e. no assets. I don't know for sure if it was an independent program or not. I think you had to be on SSD to get SSI. I was unable to qualify for SSI.

So I don't know what SSDI is!

Second, everything I say here is based on my own experience 10-12 years ago. I can not speak with certainty today.

Test data is extremly important. I had neuropsych tests, a CTscan, 3 MRIs, a spectscan, and a PETscan. If I would have had any idea I had OSA, I would have had my polysomnographic test also. As previously posted by Magesteff, be sure to get copies of all your doctors records, reports, insurance forms, etc.

Yes. How well I know. I fought that battle for 10+ years. It cost me more than a year's disability income. And it's unadulterated bull shit! YOU DO NOT HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS. JUST BECAUSE YOUR ILLNESS, CALLED A SLEEP DISORDER, AFFECTS YOUR BRAIN, DOES NOT, DOES NOT, DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS.

Take a look through the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). I bought a copy way back when and I have researched its history at a local hospital medical library. Its origin is the World Health Organization (WHO)

It contains a section for both psychiatric mental illnesses and neurological mental illnesses. Insurance companies pay for neurological problems but not psychiatric ones, probably because a person can't do anything about a neurological illness. A person may be able to do something about a psychiatric illness. The psychiatric codes are deadly. The neurological codes are not.

The insurance industry would like everyone to believe that the DSM lists every mental disorder known to man. It does provide many, the symptoms, and the associated diagnostic code. I don't think you will find that your SET of symptoms match any of the mental illnesses listed. Mine certainly didn't.

BE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT NONE OF YOUR DOCTORS USE A PSYCHIATRIC DIAGNOSTIC CODE FOR YOU. Unfortunately insurance companies require that a doctor provide a diagnostic code from the DSM on the insurance form. (This was not the case 40 years ago, pre-DSM era. Doctors described and wrote down what your symptoms were and the doctor's conclusions.) IF ONE OR MORE OF YOUR DOCTORS HAVE ALREADY USED SUCH A CODE, DISCUSS CHANGING IT, BASED ON YOUR RESEARCH OF THE FACTS!!

Just as was finally recognized with me, I suspect you too have a neurological ILLNESS, perhaps caused by your sleep-disorder, that presents itself withs psychiatric symptoms. THIS IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS.

Because it IS NOT a psychiatric illness and because all of the illnesses in the DSM are quite specific including the neurological illnesses, there is only one diagnostic code that fits. I can't remember the number, but the title is "neurological not otherwise specified."

I actually wrote a letter to my doctors saying, "If you don't know for sure what the problem is, and you are limited to the diagnostic codes in the DSM, PLEASE USE A CODE THAT ISN'T DEADLY FOR ME."

This surprises me. Be aware of a couple things here. Based on my own experience, if they definitely decide that they are going to consider you to have a mental illness, and they end up paying you for over two years, they will try to get the excess money back.

In addition, I made a friend at the Social Security office. He told me that, at that time, they were rejecting every application three times before they were given any significant attention. Once again persistence may pay off, but the real point is that it could take you 2 or 3 years. Although, if approved, it would be retroactive, if you don't have any financial reserves, it can be very, very difficult.

You may already be aware that there are many psychiatrists, neurologists and psychologists involved with sleep disorders. I would recommend that you try to work things out (read: get what you need) with your healthcare providers in the following order: (1) a neurologist, for the reasons put forth above, (2) a diplomated neuropsychiatrist, because of the "neuro", (3) a neuropsychologist, because of the "neuro", (4) a psychiatrist. Obviously if any one of them is also a sleep doctor, the order might change.

I have gone several days without any need for a nap, which means I haven't experienced any of my strange yawns either. My cognition has been noticeably improved. I have been aware of it and so has my wife. I was getting ready to call my neurodoc but decided to wait a few more days for that also.

My productivity and ability to organize are measures of my cognition. I have gotten more done in the last few days than I did during all of October and November.

I go to sleep at 1:00am and set an alarm for 8:30am, 7 1/2 hours. I have always felt good when I got up, but it's nice not to need to sleep during the day and to be able to think! I have used my CPAP every nighttime sleep and daytime nap since I got it (with the exception of a couple of hours the two nights I had some problems).

Even though I am optimistic, my cognition has recovered from a bad place before. However, my cognition has never been worse, for a longer period of time, than it was just before the daytime sleep problems began and I was diagnosed with OSA.


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